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This is the Technical Difficulties,
we’re playing Citation Needed.

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Joining me today: he reads books, y'know,
it’s Chris Joel.

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“Hello!”

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Everybody’s favourite Gary Brannan,
Gary Brannan.

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♫ I-i-if women like that like men like those,
then why don’t women like me? ♫

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Singing(!)

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And the bounciest man on the internet,
Matt Gray.

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Howdy, YouTube!

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- Oh!
- Satire.

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- Oh!
- Nice. Nice.

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In front of me I’ve got an article from Wikipedia
and these folks can’t see it.

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Every fact they get right is
a point and a ding

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and there's a special prize for particularly
good answers which is...

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And today we are talking about John Stonehouse.

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Did he live in a greenhouse?

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Completely against type.

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Now's when you ding, Tom(!)

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No. I can’t give you that.

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Am I close?

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No...

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In any way?

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No.

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Was he... a bricklayer?

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Stone House? No. No he wasn’t.

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He did go to work in a House, and there’s
a capital H in that.

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A House of something.

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Cards.

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Fun.

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Ill repute.

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I mean, you’re pretty close with
House of Cards.

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Parliament.

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Yes, have a point.

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- Oh!
- Yay.

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Born in Southampton, educated there and at
the London School of Economics.

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So was he not a politiciser?

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And then he went into politics, as the
Labour Cooperative Member of Parliament.

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So he owned some small supermarkets(?)

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Erm, sort of...

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Did you hear that? Clunk-clunk-clunk-clunk!

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“Archivist gear engaged.

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“Everybody else shut up, I know the answer.”

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I don’t! But you do still have
Cooperative Labour MPs.

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In what sense?

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They don’t sit at the back going,
“F*** no.

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“It’s bollocks, we’re not doing it.”.

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Pretty much.

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He worked very closely to the
Foreign Office.

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There was the Foreign Office, the Home Office,
the India Office and then another one.

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Commonwealth.

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Ooh, no…

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No, it’s pre-Commonwealth. Empire?

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Halfway between the two.

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Com-pire.

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Places We Stole Office.

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Yes, it’s the Colonial Office, so yes, I will
give you the point for that, absolutely right.

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Yes, he became Minister for State for Technology
and then took a role…

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Was he going around people’s houses trying
to sell cable?

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You never had that?

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Not from the Colonies Office, no!

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He moved on from there, this was...

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You said technology, I don't for...

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I know nothing about politics or other countries!
I've got to go somewhere.

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I’ve just realised that...

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Would you like some Colonial Cable?

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I’ve just realised, we’ve not actually
touched on telegraphs yet

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and we have to do that at least once or twice
a seas…

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Oh, f*** off!

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Yes, he became Minister for State for Technology,
but that meant he then transitioned into what?

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And this was in charge of telecommunications
as well as telegraphy, everything like that.

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- Post Office.
- Postmaster General.

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You’re both getting the point. He was the
Postmaster General of the United Kingdom.

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Hell of a title, that.

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Yes. He was also the last Postmaster General
of the United Kingdom.

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Oh God, what did he do?

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Nothing, they’ve just all been
really specific since.

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(Yes!)

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Sorry, Matt!

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Specific...

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Oh…

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Anything that has General on the end
sounds great, anyway.

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He oversaw the jamming of something.

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A marmalade factory.

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There’s this sort-of jam war going on where
they just…

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He’s holding toast at the other end.

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That’s Wallace and Gromit, isn’t it, actually?

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We must stop this terrible conflict...

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to preserve life.

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Ohhh!

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Even the audience was
half-hearted on that one.

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Wouldn’t want people to end up marmalised.

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1970, he oversaw the jamming of something.

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’70?

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1970.

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- Is it pirate...
- Pirate radio!

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Yes. I’ll give you the point there,
specifically what, where’s it coming from?

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- Luxembourg?
- North Sea?

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You’re thinking Radio Luxembourg but no,
you’re absolutely right, it’s off in the North Sea.

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This was one of the Radio Carolines.

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- Oh!
- Was it?

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You see I didn’t say that because
I thought it was a leading question

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and it would be wrong.

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Yes, but this isn’t QI! You’re allowed
to go for that answer here.

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Awooga!

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So he jammed Radio Caroline and part of the
response to that

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was that Radio Caroline did what?

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Jammed them right back.

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No, that actually would be... not illegal,
but it certainly would be, I think,

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a declaration of war if you do that to a country.

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And when it comes to boats we’ve probably
got the bigger shooty ones in town.

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We might have slightly more.

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Because Caroline was on and off for a bit.
So was it off for a bit?

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It was, they tried to overcome the jamming,
obviously,

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what were they sending back over the airwaves?

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Swear words. Filthy streams of invective…

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They could have done, they were offshore.

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Don’t forget Radio Caroline wasn’t illegal,

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they just made it so that any British person
associating with it was breaking the law.

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“Vote for the other ones.”

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Yes, absolutely right, they went political

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and they started broadcasting pro-Conservative
propaganda back at them.

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Sorry! Pirate radio station broadcasting
pro-Conservative messages?

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Let that sink in for a minute.

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“Vote Tory!”

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Yeah, you wouldn’t get that
these days would you? Blimey.

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No, there’s no pirate radio stations!

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- There are.
- Oh, there are.

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I was going to say, presumably you have deal
with those, Matt.

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Yes, they interfere over the broadcasts that
we are trying to make at work.

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And then we report them to OFCOM and then
they find them

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and say no, you’re being naughty, please
don’t do that.

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When you said deal with them, that suggested
you somehow

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went round at night and dealt with them.

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With a baseball bat.

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Matt Gray does have a black ski-mask and an
awful lot of black turtlenecks.

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A van just comes out of the OFCOM offices
with you guys in.

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John Stonehouse, still in charge of post and
telecommunications in the 1970s, introduced what?

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It’s not stamps or anything because they’re
already there...

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Oh, it is.

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- Is it stamps?
- Second-class...!

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Is it second-class stamps?

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Absolutely right, first and second-class stamps.
These all seem…

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(You f***er!)

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...fairly normal. In 1970 he was setting up
various companies, having things on the side.

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By 1974 most of these were in financial trouble.

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What did he decide to do?

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Print himself a whole book of stamps
as legal tender

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and pay off his debts with
a massive box full of stamps.

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That would have been a better plan than the
one he actually had.

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Issue a single £150,000 stamp on the quiet
to a collector.

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Also a better plan than what he did.

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Jesus Christ! Rob a bank.

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With stamps.

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Hang on, did he invent selfie stamps,

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where you could send in a selfie and you’d
have your own stamp?

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He didn’t set up his pirate radio station
did he, playing pro-Tory propaganda?

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He’s in deep financial trouble here,

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he’s doing creative accounting so he’s
going to be going to jail.

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Did he disappear?

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Oh, a little bit more than that.

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Is he…?

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Did he fake his death?

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Yes, he did. He faked his…

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Is he one of these clothes on the beach guys
and disappears?

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Spot on. Exactly right, he faked his death,
November 1974,

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leaving a pile of clothes on a Miami beach.

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Whose clothes?

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His clothes.

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Where was he actually going?

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Cuba!

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Australia.

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That’s a long swim.

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You’re one better than me, I was going to
say a long walk

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which would have been quite stupid.

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Well, swimming it naked,
he’s going to get cold.

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He is. Maybe he slathered himself
in goose fat beforehand.

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And, hell, he’s going the wrong way round,
he should have gone from LA.

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Yeah, the man’s a fool.

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Goose fat is what you use,
I’m right aren’t I?

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That’s what you use for cross-channel swimming.

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Yes, when you’re swimming from Miami to
Australia, that’s what you use.

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Goose fat, yes.

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Most people use their arms and legs.
Gary, goose fat.

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-“It’ll be fine!”
- Just bobs around...

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“Gary, there’s a breaker.”

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“It’s fine, the goose fat'll save me!”

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Ejecting it from behind,
like propulsive goose fat.

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Hey, a goose gives out a lot of fat, you know.

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He’s just leaving this greasy trail on the
ocean as he goes.

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“Gary Brannan’s greasy ocean trail.”

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Hell of a series.

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I once did a goose at Christmas
and it put out...

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A single goose-- now in all fairness I got
it from a budget supermarket

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so it may not have been the very best of geese,
let’s be honest.

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Budget supermarkets sell geese?

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For a tenner!

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Yes, they just get them from the local pond,
and you know…

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Ask no questions, tell no lies.
That’s the way I looked at it.

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But I did, and it pumped half a litre of fat.

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It didn’t even drip out, it literally just
leaked fat.

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You know those things when you get oil wells
and there’s a gusher…

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“Goose fat, we’re rich! Ah, I'm greasy...”

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“Quick take me to the Channel!
This is my only chance!”

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“White gold!”, he cried.

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Did it deep fry itself? Half a litre?

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It just... you put it on an angle to let it
all drain out

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and it just kept coming and coming and coming.

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It was a whole big mincemeat jar that big
was nearly full of goose fat.

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No man in the world can eat that much 
roast potatoes, is what I’ve found.

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Sorry, can I just point out:

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mincemeat jar full of goose fat, that’s
quite a northern thing to say…

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So yes, Stonehouse, meanwhile. 
Stonehouse was... I’m just trying to pull this back.

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It was in my fridge for months!

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I remember, you sent me a picture of it!

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You actually sound closer to
tears than laughter, Gary.

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Because, just after we’d had this massive
Christmas dinner where I’d done the goose.

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I got all this goose fat, the holy grail of
Yorkshire puddings and roast potatoes...

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Went on a f***ing diet
and I never touched the stuff.

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AUDIENCE: Aww.

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And in this jar was…

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John Stonehouse…

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Seamless(!)

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John Stonehouse was en-route to Australia

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setting up a new life with
his mistress and secretary.

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Are they two separate people?

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Was he just being a real arse and taking his
mistress and his secretary?

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Well, who was his new identity?
Whose identity had he taken on?

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Did he nick a dead person's?

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Yes, he did. Deceased husband of a constituent.

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So he deposited cash at one bank, picked it
up at another and the teller was suspicious

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and reported him to local police.

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The police, when they interviewed him,

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asked him to drop his trousers. Why?

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Normal.

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Was the person he was pretending to be a eunuch?

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No, just his trousers, just his trousers.

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Well they’re looking for an identifying mark,
are they not? So tattoo or birthmark.

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Yes... neither. This is 1974.

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Lord Lucan!

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Yes. They suspected that he was Lord Lucan
who had very famously disappeared,

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there’s a whole separate story there.

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Someone suspiciously turning up
with an English accent in Australia,

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depositing large sums of money.

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Who is obviously on the run...

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Lord Lucan had a large scar down his leg.

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So the police were going,
well, drop your trousers,

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we want to see if you’re Lord Lucan.
He wasn't...

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Did he debag himself in aid of the…

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Because if he did, and he dropped his trousers
and there’s no scar,

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he should surely be let go.

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Yes, and then they’re not going to be suspicious
of him ever again.

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Yes, he was still arrested, they just knew
he wasn’t Lord Lucan.

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Oh.

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“We know you’re somebody but we don’t
know who.

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“Standard procedure, drop the trousers.”

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That was essentially... yeah, that would have
been 1974.

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“What do we do second?”
“I don’t know, it’s never failed.”

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“Every arse tells a story.”

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“All right, we’re going to need
to get your arse print here,

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“please just sit in this ink for a little
while, and then on this paper...”

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“Just reverse onto this paper.”

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“It’s thumbprint. Thumbprint!”

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He’s arrested, six months later he’s deported
to the UK.

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He’s remanded in Brixton prison. What has
he not done at any point during this?

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Pulled his trousers up.

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Walked really waddly all the way.

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“They haven’t said I could,” he said.

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Changed his name back?

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Bear in mind his job.

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As Postmaster General, ex…

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Sorry, what was that?

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Postmaster General, ex-Postmaster General.

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Was he still in the same job?
Had he not been sacked?

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- Yes.
- Oh, s***!

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He did not resign as an MP.

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Oh, boy!

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So did he come back to massive fines for not
having done his job properly?

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- No, he was an MP.
- You don’t get fined for not doing your job.

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He just kept being an MP and getting his salary.

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Were they still paying him throughout the
entire time he buggered off?

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Well, at this point,
he had to have his trousers down

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because of the sheer size of his balls.

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He was put on trial on 21 charges of fraud,
theft, forgery, conspiracy to defraud,

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causing a false police investigation
and wasting police time.

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He sounds right for an MP.

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Trial was 68 days long.
He conducted his own defence.

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That’s brave.

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Yeah, it didn’t work all that well.

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Did he just drop his trousers when he could?

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And say repeatedly, “not Lord Lucan” because
it worked the first time.

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After his release he worked as a fundraiser,

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joined what became the Liberal Democrats,

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wrote some novels, started a small business
that sold hotel safes.

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I'm speeding through all this…

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- Hotel safes?
- Hotel safes.

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Because he’s used to embezzling money…

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They had a funnel that went directly to his
bank account.

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“Put money in my safe!” “No, f*** you!”

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- “You put money in your safe!”
- “Invest in my company…”

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It hasn’t got a back on it!

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More than 20 years after his death,
something was revealed about him.

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He was Lord Lucan?

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He just had a lot of bio-oil.

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I thought he was going for the button to say
yes then!

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No, no, way, way back in his political career,

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he’d negotiated an
agreement of technological cooperation

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between Britain and Czechoslovakia, as was.

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Uh oh. Is he a spy?

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Oh, he's sp-- in fact--

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The minute you say 'information sharing' and
'Czechoslovakia' which is in the former Soviet bloc,

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he’s not going to just be going and eating
their fine pastries, is he?

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Yes, it turned out that he’d been an agent

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for the Czechoslovak Socialist Republic
military intelligence.

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S***, he’s Postmaster General!

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Yes.

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That’s why it takes so long for your post
to arrive!

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I’m going to give you a point for twigging
that before I made the connection there.

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It goes via Czechoslovakia!

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He was Minister in Charge of Post and Technology.

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And that includes things like the
Post Office Tower and things like that,

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that are transmitting signals around the world.

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Yes.

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This is pretty bad s*** isn’t it, let’s
face it. This is bad news bears.

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Somehow the embezzling
and taking someone else’s identity

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is yet not the worst thing about this man.

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- No.
- Because he’s used to it!

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That’s true, that.

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At the point where the government found out
about this,

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Margaret Thatcher was in power.
What did she decide to do?

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- Nothing?
- Privatise him.

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Yes, he will work with more efficiency
as a privately owned scumbag.

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British politics jokes there.

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Well, either nothing or something, is what
I’m going for there.

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Chris, choose one of those options.

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I’m going with something.

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00:14:47.330 --> 00:03:18.900
You’re wrong. It’s nothing.

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Oh…

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It was easier to cover it up and never let
the public know

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that there had been a Czech spy in government.

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00:14:54.990 --> 00:03:18.900
Because they’d obviously done no Czechs
on him!

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Oh…

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Yes.

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At the end of the show...

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Congratulations, Matt, you win this one.

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How?

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Genuinely, you got a lot of dings in there.

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You win breakfast food prepared by the star
of Sherlock.

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It’s Eggs Benedict Cumberbatch.

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F***ing...

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Do enjoy that.

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With that, we say thank you to Chris Joel.

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It’s over!

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To Gary Brannan.

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To Matt Gray.

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Bye-bye YouTube.

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I’ve been Tom Scott,
we’ll see you next time.

